An Interview With Nick

 

 

In 2004, the year I started writing By My Side, my friend Veronica, who also writes fanfic, offered to “interview” my Nick, the character, as a writing exercise.  It was a way for me to get in my character’s head and really have to think about his thoughts, motivations, goals, hopes, dreams, fears – basically just the way he sees everything.  It was nice for me to be able to write in first person from Nick’s point of view, cause Broken and BMS are done all in third person, and it really did help me just solidify where my character was at as we went through the interview.  Although it was probably a good exercise for Veronica too, having to think up interview questions for a semi-fictional character, I think I’m the one who got to benefit most from it, since I was answering the questions about my own character.  So a big thanks to Veronica for thinking up this idea and seeing it through. :)

 

We slowly worked our way through this interview, one question at a time, for about a year and a half (seems crazy LOL, but yeah, there were times when months went by between questions and answers, answers and questions), and finally finished it at the time I’m posting this, January 2006.  We’d always been planning to post it once we were done, just cause we found it interesting and thought the rest of the BMS readers might too.  So here it is, for your reading pleasure.

 

One last thing to note – since this was written over such a long period, my/”Nick’s” answers reflect wherever I/he was in the story at the time.  So when he refers to his girlfriend in the earlier questions, he’s talking about Claire, even though at the time I’m posting this, they’re not together in the story.  I thought about going back to bring the answers up to date, but I changed my mind and decided to leave them as is.  I’m not sure if “Nick” really changes any over the course of this interview, the way I think he has in the story, but if he does, it’s there for you to witness.

 

Thanks for reading, and thanks again to Veronica for doing this with me!  It was fun! :)

 

~Julie

 

1/13/2006

 

 

 

 

Veronica:  Thanks for agreeing to this interview, Nick.  Let's get started.  How would you describe the last few years or so since you were diagnosed with cancer?

 

Nick:  Hey, no problem, thanks for offering to interview me. I guess it’s about time I opened up and got my story out to the public, my fans especially.  So, um, to answer your question…  Well, if I’m being honest, the first word that comes to mind is “crappy” – I can say that, right?  Crappy?  Oh well, I guess you can edit it out if not.  But anyway… yeah, um, the last couple of years have been the hardest of my life.  I thought I’d been through some tough times in the past, but nothing like this.  Disputes with management and lawsuits with our record company… family problems and break-ups with girlfriends… all of that kind of stuff seems so petty when you get diagnosed with something as serious as cancer.  In a lot of ways, I’m a different person than I was before I was diagnosed – I mean, my life and whole mindset has totally changed.  A few years ago, I was living the rock star life – you know, making music and touring, partying, all that good stuff.  But since then, my priorities have shifted.  Even though I’ve managed to do some stuff with the Backstreet Boys since I was diagnosed, my career isn’t the first thing that comes to mind when you ask about the last few years, because so much of that time has revolved around my illness… you know, hospitals and the treatments and stuff.

But I know the fellas would want me to look on the bright side here, so before I start to sound too depressing – haha, too late, right? – I also have to add that the last two years haven’t been all bad.  I mean, like I said, I’ve been lucky enough to be able to continue with my career, which is, you know, one of my biggest passions.  And me being sick has actually brought the group closer together.  And it also kinda introduced me to my girlfriend, who I love very much.  So yeah… I guess every cloud does have its silver lining.

 

 

V:  It does; just gotta look and find it.  So tell me then, how has having cancer affected the way you see yourself?  Not just physically, but mentally as well?

 

N:  Hm… well, having cancer has definitely affected the way I see myself.  At first, it was really hard to get used to the idea that I really did have cancer.  Not that I thought I was above it or anything, but you know, it’s that “It can’t happen to me” feeling.  You can’t really fathom the idea of having cancer yourself until you hear the words and it starts to sink in.  And then it gets really weird when people find out.  Because even though you know you’re still the same old person, they start looking at you differently.  And you get a new label – cancer victim.  It took me a long time to get used to that because I didn’t want to think of myself as a ‘cancer victim.’  I guess you’d call that denial.  I got used to it eventually, but I still don’t really like being labeled as that… I’d prefer ‘cancer survivor,’ if anything.  Cause that’s how I’d like to think of myself – as a survivor, not a victim.

Anyway, when I was first diagnosed, even after the initial shock went away and the reality of it kinda set in, I didn’t really see myself any differently.  I was still the same old Nick – and I still am.  But as you know, the various treatments for cancer do a lot of things to your body, and once I started experiencing those side effects, my view of myself did change.  While I was on chemo, my hair fell out, and I lost a lot of weight and muscle mass in a short amount of time, and I just physically looked really different, and not in a good way.  I was pretty nasty-looking there for awhile.  And I know it would be hard on anybody, but it was especially hard for me, being in the public eye and having the spotlight on me all the time.  When you’re an entertainer, especially the kind I am, looks matter.  It shouldn’t really be that way, but it is.  I’m not naïve enough to think that physical appearance played absolutely no part in the success of the Backstreet Boys.  And I mean, I’ve never really thought of myself as “hot” or whatever, so don’t think I have some big ego – all I’m saying is I know that a lot of our female fans do find us attractive, and so we’ve always been judged on our looks.  Which is flattering, but it does make it even harder when the looks go.  I was afraid to go out in public, afraid to be seen looking the way I did.  I was ashamed and kind of embarrassed of it, even though I know I shouldn’t have been – it’s not like I could have helped it.  But the good thing about chemo is that the side effects eventually go away.  After I was done with the treatment, my hair grew back, and I started looking like my old self again, which was a big boost for my self-confidence.

Losing my leg was an entirely different story.  That completely shattered the self-confidence I’d built back up, and even though I’ve come a long way in accepting myself the way I am since then, I don’t really have that confidence back yet.  Just doing this interview is really hard for me… I mean, opening up about stuff that’s so personal is nerve-racking.  But I know people are curious, and I want them to know and to understand kind of where I’m coming from.  Cause you know, in our society, and especially in the entertainment business, people strive for perfection and expect you to be perfect.  And obviously, I’m not – not physically and not in any other way.  But even though I’ve changed on the outside, on the inside I’m still the same person I always was, and I want people to see that and accept me for who I am.  And that, I think, will help me learn to completely accept myself.

 

 

V:  Accepting what's happened comes with time; it'll get easier.  That said, how are your relationships with those close to you?  Your friends, family and girlfriend?  Have any of them been strained since everything’s happened?

 

N:  Well, different people react to things like this in different ways, and I do have friends who I’m not as close to as I used to be.  I don’t see as much of my family as I’d like to, and my relationship with my mom especially is strained.  It was strained before any of this went down, but it’s even worse now… although I’d prefer not to get into any specifics there.  But for the most part, this ordeal has strengthened my relationships with the people I’m close to.  The Backstreet Boys, as a group and as friends, are tighter than ever, and as for my girlfriend, I couldn’t ask for a better woman in my life.  Sometimes it takes a serious situation like this to remind you of who and what is important and bring you closer together to the people you care about.

 

 

V:  People always say to live for the moment and live for now, not to worry too much about the future.  Since your life has changed so drastically, do you have any new goals or accomplishments for six months from now or maybe even six years from now, taking into consideration your career and current situation?

 

N:  After almost losing my life to cancer, I look at life differently.  I used to take the future for granted… you know, I just figured I’d be around for years and years and be able to do whatever I wanted.  But it’s different now… I know the future is uncertain, and I want to make the most out of the time that I have.  It’s kinda like the quote I put in my liner notes on the Millennium album – “Live life to the fullest, for the future is scarce.”  That’s what I’d like to do from now on.  I want to get married someday, have a family… I want to record another album with the fellas and do another tour…  Maybe I’ll start some kind of charity organization for young people with cancer, people who have been through the same kind of thing I have.  I wanna give back, ya know.  For right now, those are my biggest goals and hopes for the future.

 

 

V:  Having had one of your legs amputated above the knee, do you find it hard to do the things you used to do?  We know that you had to have rehab to be able to walk and whatnot.  Are you hesitant to try to do these things that were once so easy for you?  Or does the drive overcome the fear?  Do you think that we as people take for granted the things that come naturally?

 

N:  I won’t lie – it is harder to do many of the things I used to do.  Physically, everything just requires a lot more energy, and I get worn out pretty easily.  But I’ve gotten to the point where I can do most of the stuff I used to be able to do… maybe slower or not as well, but I can still do it.  I was swimming again a month after the operation, and I still play basketball and have even been scuba diving.  I actually figured out how to run on my artificial leg too, but I kinda pushed myself too hard doing that and ended up regretting it for a month, so I haven’t attempted that again yet.  But I’ll give it another try someday and pace myself a little better.  For the most part, I’m not too hesitant to try new things these days.  I’ve come too far with my rehab to back down and let new challenges scare me away.  I’ve always been a pretty active person – I like sports, and hell, I used to sing and dance for a living - and one of the things that scared me the most before and right after the amputation was the thought that I might never walk or anything again.  I was really nervous about rehab when I first started… I was scared of falling, of hurting myself, of getting discouraged because it was too hard.  But I figured out within the first week or two that if I was gonna learn to walk again, I was gonna fall, just like a baby learning to walk for the first time.  And I knew I was gonna get discouraged too… and I did.  But I had a great physical therapist, and I was surrounded by good friends, and they all helped me push through.  That was really the hardest part of it all, those first few weeks of rehab.  Once I got done with that and could walk without too much trouble, it was easier to take it a step further – no pun intended, haha – and try new things.  I wanted to be able to do as many of the things I used to do as possible, so the drive definitely helped me overcome the fear.

I do think most people take a lot of granted.  Until you’ve experienced it, you have no idea what it feels like to suddenly not be able to walk, something you’ve been doing without thought for almost your whole life.  It’s very frustrating and hard to accept.  Learning to walk again is just weird because you really have to think about it, about how to do it.  And I actually had to learn a whole new process because walking on an artificial leg isn’t exactly the same as walking on a real one with muscles you can control.  It was this whole step-by-step thing I had to master, and it took me a long time to get it down.  For months, I had to really concentrate on each step so that I wouldn’t lose my balance or trip and fall.  It’s a lot easier now, and I don’t really have to think about it, but I’ll never take something as “simple” as walking for granted again.

 

 

V:  If you were to release another solo album, what would you title it, and what do you think the feel of the songs would be?  Do you think your current situation would play a role in it at all, or do you think it wouldn't change anything?

 

N:  Hm, that’s a good question.  Working on my first solo album was a great experience for me, so I’d love to do some more solo work somewhere down the line.  If I did another album, what would I title it?  Haha, you’re putting me on the spot here… how about "On the Right Foot"?  Just kidding, heh.  I actually don’t know.  I’ll get back to you on that one.

I’ve always been a rock fan, and my last album was more rock-oriented than the kind of music I do with the Backstreet Boys, so I think that trend would continue if I did another album – more rock, less pop.  And I’m sure my situation would play a role in the songs I wrote – then I’d have good material for some angsty, angry rock songs, haha.  I like to write songs that have to do with feelings or experiences I’ve had, and I’ve been through such a life-changing thing these last few years that I think it would be hard not to include some of that in my music.  But don’t worry, I’d definitely still do some love songs and some more upbeat stuff too; I like making feel-good music, not depressing everyone.

 

 

V:  I know I asked before if any of your relationships with your friends and whatnot have been strained, and you said yes.  I'm curious, as for your band members - have they changed towards you at all on an individual basis?  Do you feel that they worry too much about you sometimes, or do they give you your space and let you feel things out?  Do you feel you need to prove anything to them?

 

N:  What’s that one saying… “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”?   That’s kinda how I think of my relationship with the fellas.  We’ve been a group since 1993, when I was only thirteen, so I’ve pretty much grown up with those guys.  They’re like big brothers to me, and we really are like a family… always have been.  We’ve been through a ton of stuff together, a lot of highs and lows.  The highs have been great bonding experiences for us, of course, but I think it’s the lows that have really brought us closer together and strengthened our bonds with each other.  It’s not just my stuff, you know – AJ’s rehab, Brian’s heart surgery in ’98, Howie losing his sister… all of those tragedies hit us all hard and made us all stronger, not just as individuals, but as a group.  My experience with cancer and everything was no different.  Brian, Kevin, Howie, and AJ were there for me through everything, and I think it really made us even closer.  They made sacrifices to be there for me when I needed my friends around me, and I really leaned on them when I was going through the worst of it.  Howie and AJ even lived at my house with me for a few months after I lost my leg.  We really were – and still are – like brothers.  They’re my family.

            I’ve always been the baby of the family, being the youngest in the group, so really, the guys have always tended to worry about me a little more than they do each other, most of the time.  You know, Kev’s like the ‘dad’ of the group, and he’s always been a little overprotective of me, just cause he’s a lot older and a little too anal – haha, sorry Kev, if this gets put in the interview.  You know I love you, bro.  Anyways… yeah, I guess you could say he and the other guys do worry about me a little too much sometimes, but they also know I’m grown up and can take care of myself, so they’ll give me my space when I need it.  I know it’s all out of love anyway, and I do need a kick in the butt from them every now and then to keep me in line, so it’s all good.

            In some ways, I’ve been trying to prove myself to them ever since we started as a group, just cause I’m the youngest and always had a lot to live up to.  Once I got sick, I was constantly trying to show them that I was still up to doing the stuff I used to do… singing especially.  We finished recording our last album while I was on chemo, cause I was really stubborn about not wanting to hold the group back on account of me.  I know the guys weren’t really in favor of that decision, but I wanted to keep contributing to the group and pulling my weight, and I think they realized that and let me make my own decision.  It was pretty much the same thing after I lost my leg; they wanted to see me get through the rehab and get my life back, but at the same time, they were always worried that I was pushing myself too hard, and I just wanted to get back to “normal” as soon as I could and show them all that I could still be a Backstreet Boy, still be Nick.

 

 

V:  If you could describe yourself in five words now, what words would you choose?

 

N:  Humbled.  Unsure.  Persevering.  Strong.  Survivor.

 

 

V:  What are the most important things to you right now? Have these things changed since you were diagnosed, or are they still the same pre cancer?

 

N:  The most important things to me right now are the people I love, my music, and my health.  I guess they’re the same things that have always been important to me, but I know I took some of them for granted before I got sick.  When you’re young and rich and famous, you start to think you’re invincible.  And you know, I always tried to stay humble and not get an ego about all the success I had as a Backstreet Boy, but I think, subconsciously, I felt like I could do anything, and nothing was gonna bring me down.  I felt like I was on top of the world, and all I wanted to do was enjoy my success, have fun, go out and party, live it up.  I got pretty wild around the time I went solo… and then, you know, not too long after my solo tour, I got hit with cancer.  And things did change.  My priorities have changed; I know what’s really important now, and partying isn’t.  Success is great, and I’m definitely grateful, but it’s not everything.  As long as I’m in good health, surrounded by good people who want the best for me, and am making music, I’m happy.  That’s what’s most important to me now.

 

 

V:  Where do you see yourself ten years from now?

 

N:  Well, first of all, I hope I’m here in ten years, haha.  God willing, I’ll still be making music.  Hopefully I’ll have settled down with a woman I love.  I really do want to get married someday, when the time is right.  Maybe have kids, if it’s in the cards.  But no matter which way my life goes next – and really, who knows? – I just hope that I’m happy and that I’m still able to make other people happy.

 

 

 

 

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